Chest hairs not shaved correct

Well I had mine done 4 25 14, and I must have had a bind shaver,

who missed 5 spots one real big one right under the pacemaker,

than i get another blind nurse to put more very sticky bandages on

top of the missed thick hairs all around my new pacemaker.

Of course i could not sleep at Yale 20 York street New Haven

because of all the dam noise and alarms going off I leave with

almost no pain. then i go home, and go visit my poor wife who

because of all this crap ended up in a locked up mental ward,

everything was still fine at that point.

I go home and i'm all pumped up finally i start to fall asleep around

2 am, and i feel a new pain around my pace maker, i figure maybe

this is normal, only it gets worst, and worst, now my Coronary artery

spasm starts to act up from the stress, more pain no sleep i'm to

whacked to think straight, it's now 11 am i say i need some sleep i

got to feel good and take my wive out Monday when she get's

discharged. so i hate pain meds but i take the script that was given

to me at the hospital, And go fill it at the nearest drugstore, only to

find out it totally worthless to me, the female doctor who wrote and

signed it, never put her DEA number on it.

So the pharmacist call Yale at 20 York St New Haven CT. and they

say they don't have a DEA number on her the script was for

oxycodone which means nothing to me since i don't know or want

to know about pain killers and very rarely take them, but by now the

pain was getting even worse

Some how i end up talking to my doctors office on call doctor,

telling me to take another lighter drug he could call in that was not

neededto be written on paper.

I this point i was insane with pain, anger, for a screw up and said

no, just make them find her number. what should have been done

looking back now was there was a medical walk in center two

minutes away, and if i went there or if a smart doctor told me to go

there, i would have been fixed in seconds but no, just making me

take another weaker drug finally i leave go home and fall asleep

only to wake up choking on part of a tooth i broke from grinding my

teeth.

so i go see my wife but first i try to beg the people at Yale to find

that doctor and find her DEA number no can do like she is a ghost

in there dumb system there at Yale 20 York ST. New Haven CT. i

visit my wife, and i'm tying very hard not to let on i'm hurting real

bad, and the worse part cells calls can't be used there. So i go

outside about 8 hours later and get a call from my real doctor who

said i think i know your problem the bandages are sticking and

pulling on your hairs which are pulling your skin.

I go to the public bathroom and by now i'm totally insane with pain

and anger that he must be right i do thank him for figuring it out.

I just rip them all off blood and skin comes out , blood everywhere

but the pain level starts to drop from a 15 back to a 5

I bitch to Yale, and ask that the doctor who wrote that script talk to

me i chewed her a new one and asked her to pay for my tooth,

which she agreed but a few days later Yale said NO IT DID NOT

HAPPEN ON THERE PROPERTY

if i live long enough for a new one, i will shave myself so i won't

have to live in a 24 hour torture chamber

Gary


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Pictures

by Tick-tock - 2014-05-12 01:05:15

You can go to member gallery in top left hand corner. From there you can upload a picture by browsing through your desktop. So sorry to hear you are having a heck of a time, and faced with so many obstacles . Hoping tomorrow brings you better luck. Also, sending positive thoughts not only to you, but your wife. Hope you can heal quickly, together.

i'm still pissed off

by garydiamond - 2014-05-12 01:05:28

I' feel like i was raped for 24 hours, and every one i talk to is a female, who can't understand how chest hairs feel when pulled on them, I must have ripped out about 400 How can I post of pic i took of my mess, is there a way to do it here?

I'm sorry, but I have doubts . . .

by SaraTB - 2014-05-12 03:05:12

. . . . about some of this, especially given the choice of language, which is clearly designed to offend.

"I felt like I'd been raped for 24 hours" is an extremely offensive thing to write, even as a joke and bears no relation to your actual experience. It's not a subject for jokes.

And although you insist women don't understand your pain - have you ever had a bikini wax? Think about that.

Unless, as I suspect, all this is made up and you are simply trying to provoke a response?

I think there's always a place for humour in our difficult circumstances, but there are some things that really, really aren't appropriate. Welcome to the PM Club and I hope we get along better in future.

Ouch

by IAN MC - 2014-05-12 03:05:22

The thought of ripping an adhesive electronic contact off my right testicle brings tears to my eyes. I think I would have left it there ; it could have been the start of a new fashion !

Ian

Probably the wrong response, Gary, but ..

by IAN MC - 2014-05-12 05:05:06

.. I found your report VERY entertaining :-

- blind nurse
- choking on a broken tooth
- raped for 24 hrs
- 400 hairs ripped out

It sounds like a typical stay in a British Hospital ( but I thought things were better your side of the pond.)

I hope the doc who installed your PM wasn't also blind and I wish you a rapid recovery

Ian

Well Sara TB

by garydiamond - 2014-05-12 05:05:09

PLEASE , PLEASE ,If you can show me where the member gallery IS in top left hand corner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT I HAD TO DO TO GET MY SELF FREE FROM MY TORTURE CHAMBER.

No i didn't take any pics that would up set someone, if you don't mind looking at ripped skin around a pace maker.

But for you females, please let me know how getting one off a clitoris would feel like? After its been on two days plus about 25 hairs coming off with it?

Sorry, I feel your pain but...

by Gotrhythm - 2014-05-12 06:05:26

To find the member gallery:
At the top of the home page, find the header Pacemaker Club. White letters on a red background.
Directly under the header on the left find the heading, "Club house."
"Member Gallery" is the fifth subheading.

About your problem,
One time a forty lb. child I was caring for rared back and slammed his head into my nose. It hurt. *#&^%$ HURT.

Hurt so bad I went to doctor. Told him what happened. HE LAUGHED. Writing in my chart and snickering.

Everywhere I tried to get some sympathy, my friends all laughed too.

Me with my swollen red honker and everybody but me laughing.

Sorry, pal. There are just some injuries that are funny---painful to think about, but...What can I say...funny, too. In a slapstick sort of way.

Getting bonked on the nose is funny. Pulled pubbies are kind of in that category too.

No I wouldn't like it. Neither would anybody here, male or female.

Hope you're feeling better.

I don't see...

by Grateful Heart - 2014-05-12 08:05:20

...how we can help you. It sounds like you want to speak to an Attorney. Let them advise you of your options.

It would probably be good if the Attorney was male since all the females in your posts either can not see, can not write and do not understand.

Seriously....make sure it is a male.

Grateful Heart

Well i posted my pictures

by garydiamond - 2014-05-12 08:05:54

If you still don't believe my story i will scan the letter from Yale which just about says tough luck sorry Gary sorry don't cut it with me 24 hours of thinking the worst i going to a happen her is what i told them

1. I WAS SHAVED INCORRECTLY ON YALE'S PROPERTY.

2. I WAS NOT INSPECTED BEFORE BANDAGES WERE PLACE ON ME, ON YALE'S PROPERTY.

3. I DOCTOR WROTE A SCRIPT THAT HAD NO DEA NUMBER ON IT, IT HAPPENED ON YALE'S PROPERTY.

4. THE DOCTOR WHO WROTE THE SCRIPT KNEW SHE WROTE IT WITH OUT A DEA NUMBER, AND STILL SIGNED IT; ON YALE'S PROPERTY.

5. SHE GAVE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE WHO ALSO WORKS FOR YALE, WHO ALSO NEVER CHECKED THAT IT HAD NO DEA NUMBER ON IT, ON YALE'S PROPERTY.

6. IT WAS GIVEN TO ME ON YALE'S PROPERTY.

7. YALE CAUSED MY PAIN, AND SUFFERING, PHYSICALLY, AND MENTALLY, AND BOTH ARE STILL ON GOING BECAUSE YALE ONLY PLAYS BY THE LEGAL RULES.

I feel like why do I need too.

by garydiamond - 2014-05-12 09:05:27

And anyway I don't have the money to fight them, i just asked them since they have a dental clinic there just fix what you broke, let me meet in person the dumb doctor who screwed me up, let me vent my feelings on her, doing it on the phone is not enough, I don't even know if it was really her I spoke too, and let me do the same to the bind shaver, the person who assumed I was shaved correctly and the girl who gave me the bad script which was 8.5 x 11 size paper i'm not asking for there jobs, just to be able to vent my feeling on them so they know how I hurt inside. Which has left me now with anger issues. They pay a fleet of lawyers, I feel like a mouse against a cat. I'm totality innocent, and I plan on posting all their names, who feel its not so bad, and i should move forward. NO IT'S PURE NEGLECT, at first the doctor offered me to pay for all dental work, now no, I assume she talked to their attorneys maybe the doctor doesn't care what I write about her, perhaps she's going to go back were she lived before.
I just can't get closure from Yale, they think apology is enough, that don't even come close to closure for me, i just want the mental pain to go away, there letter send to me hurt me, even makes my mental pain more, i do feel like a rape Victim. Just because my scars on the outside will heal, I can't feel healing on the inside.

I kinda agree w/ Gary.....

by donr - 2014-05-12 09:05:30

.....on his troubles w/ the bandaging.

Similar situation for Wife when she had a lumpectomy. They used a clear plastic, waterproof "Band Aid" to cover it. Turned out that she was allergic to the glue used to hold it on; developed a blister along top & bottom edges that ripped off when we removed it on about the third day. Open wound; bled pretty badly; hurt like fire. Took longer to heal than the incisions.

If that's the original bandage in the third photo, I'd say that's not a particularly professional looking bandage.

In spite of the fact that Gary looks like Earnest Hemingway in his prime & uses some of the same colorful metaphors to describe his situation, I'd say that he has a legit complaint about some of the things that happened.

Makes me wonder if he's a former Marine.

Donr

Very sorry to hear that about your wife

by garydiamond - 2014-05-12 10:05:46

My wife had the same thing done, so in a very small way I can relate. She was lucky but now when they draw blood from her she gets a nasty reaction. so as soon as it's done, and where out, off comes the dam bandage which turns her skin black and blue, but if pulled off nothing happens
No the Marines was not my thing, for sure Vietnam was a another dumb war I was against, but I did serve in the army. I'm not a chicken hawk, my dad said do you want to go live in Canada, remember back then we thought it was a one way trip there, I said no. But i hated the service to many dummies, who feel like the ones i'm dealing with now, it's not my job to be perfect. Maybe they should not work there than.

I did expect to find sleeping there hard, but it was much harder than any other hospital I was in. But i'm not lucky with doctors this is not my first time of a major screw up for me, or my wife

I did do that Grateful Heart

by garydiamond - 2014-05-12 11:05:27

That's who I went too, and they said it did not happen on Yale's property so i'm out of luck, I assume they mean me breaking a tooth, but as far as pain and suffering the "Patient Advocate" feels saying their sorry should be enough. And that's it, oh they said write a letter on paper send it to there legal people, what for they will make fun of me, sorry to get you upset, but yes may I use the word being tortured, because I was in so much pain near the very end, I really didn't even care if i lived, just end the pain, did you look at the pic I posted?

Ok Gary

by Grateful Heart - 2014-05-12 11:05:36

I didn't plan on having this exchange with you but....here goes.

First of all, please STOP saying you feel like you have been raped....unless you have actually experienced that crime. That is very offensive to rape victims and females in general. Yes, men can be raped as well but if you weren't then you really need to stop as none of us can imagine what a rape victim has had to endure and frankly, you will probably lose female support here talking like that. You have NOT been raped in this case....injured yes but there is a big difference and probably not injured intentionally.

Most hospitals have a "Patient Advocate". They are there for patients and will investigate complaints. I found out accidentally about them when I had a bad experience at a hospital and they called me to see how I liked my stay and care. When I told the Nurse she transferred me to the Patient Advocate. Yes, she did get back to me with confirmation that I was correct. As a result, I did not have to pay the co-pay bill they insulted me with after sending me home with fluid around my heart. I didn't get closure from it....I just moved on and as a result I found a better Doctor.

I know we are all different but my thinking at the time was I needed all the energy I had to work on recovering from the ICD implant and then the horrible hospital experience 3 weeks later. I was mad, upset and hurt that the Doctor did not listen to me.

BUT....you have to speak nicely and respectfully to them. Flying off the handle will not get you anywhere. Put your complaint in writing if you think that is best.

If that is still not enough for you, speak to a Malpractice Attorney to get their perspective on it. Many will have a free consult. There were mishaps in your case as in many other cases but it probably doesn't warrant a lawsuit, however, I am not a Lawyer so let a professional tell you whether or not you have a case. If not....move on. Holding on to it will not hurt anyone but you.....and maybe your Wife.

If after all of that you still can't seem to get past it emotionally then maybe you would need to speak to a therapist. As you say, your mental pain will not go away so that is something you need to work on for your own sanity.

I don't know what closure will be for you but I hope you find it. I just know holding on to the anger won't give you closure.

Grateful Heart

Well now that you said that

by garydiamond - 2014-05-12 12:05:56

After two days they let me take a shower and I found one of those dam electronic contacts, they missed and somehow with my very good fortune it was now suck to my right testicle, why I didn't feel it, is beyond me, I even asked my doctors nurse can I ask you a sort of personal question, she said well if it's not to bad yes, have you ever seen a pacemaker installed in the operating room, she said yes, than I said is there some reason they need to stick a electronic contact to one of my testicles, she said no. All I remember before the lights went out was someone doing something near my groan, maybe some one here knows what that was about?

Which was not pain free in removing, THANK GOD FOR BAD LUCK, OR I WOULD NOT HAVE ANY LUCK!

to Ian:

by SaraTB - 2014-05-13 04:05:17

Hi Ian. I fully accept there is more than one definition, such as the example you gave, "to spoil or destroy". However, this was a very specific comparison to sexual rape - it clearly, in that context, was intended to relate that way, not to the alternative definition you have given.

It's a fair chance that some member here, or someone they know, has been raped. Female OR male. It's just unnecessary to use such an expression in a forum like this. It's simply bound to raise readers' hackles and lead to less support for the poster's issues.

I understand you may think objecting is OTT - but I hope you understand that others of us think the expression is OTT. I'd also say this has nothing to do with American mores. You may recall that, although I now live in the US, I'm a Brit, spending considerable time each year 'back home' so I'm pretty clued up on what is considered offensive on both sides of the ocean. Try the "Everyday Sexism" website, regularly reported on in the Daily Telegraph and the Guardian, for example.

I do feel badly that the poster had such pain and such a bad experience. That doesn't diminish my discomfort with his form of expression.

Hope you can see where I'm coming from.

And

by Grateful Heart - 2014-05-13 05:05:15

No one shouted Gary down or infringed on his free speech. We listened, we responded and we tried to help.

He was basically asked to continue the conversation with kindness and respect and to Gary's credit he did.

Yes, there can be other meanings for rape but it's pretty clear what Gary meant by referring to himself as a rape victim.

If you went back to my early adulthood, his use of the word "Rape" would be acceptable here is the US also. There is even a classical English poem entitled "The Rape of the Lock", referring to a lock of hair cut from a woman. I recall reading it as a student.

It is unfortunate that here in the US we have developed a violent segment of society that has given "Rape" a less classical connotation from that earlier era.

Too many American women & girls have suffered that indignity to the point that the word may well invoke a different visualization here than in the UK, making its use far less acceptable.

Your description of Gary's report as "VERY entertaining" did not sit well with a significant segment of American women - pointing out that we really no longer have a truly common language.

I am quite sure that the reverse is true between things that we may write and are read by people on your side of the pond.

Gary did just fine in explaining and defending himself.

Unfortunately, I don't think we helped him much.

Grateful Heart

Sorry, I did used the wrong word

by garydiamond - 2014-05-13 05:05:23

And I promise not to again, even better can someone with better communication skills than I have, which I will be the first to say, I don't have. But wished I did have, could give me the right word to use. Just one word please, since the one word I chose has upset someone, and I don't want to upset anyone. I'm looking for the right word please? Not a phrase. Would tortured be correct? Now at that time I had no idea why I was having the pain, I even thought I did something wrong, and it was ALL MY FAULT.

So to make sure I do communicate to you how I felt when I was in pain was, I was saying to myself, should I call 911, but I thought this pain must be normal, otherwise why would I have a script for oxycodone. So I said to myself its normal. All I need is some strong pain meds and it will heal, and go away, I did not know I had a abnormal issue, how could I? NO IT DID NOT FEEL LIKE HAIRS PULLING girls; A sharp pain, but everywhere on my chest, I wanted the pain to STOP, AND WHATEVER IT TOOK I WOULD DO honestly I was totally confused and was begging for help, I felt no one cared! And my nightmare would never end. Also does anyone know how they shave you, is it done with a electric first, then a wet one? I know from first hand experience and your awake they do that when you get a
Angioplasty, I also have medicated stent, which while on the subject and i know I should start a new thread, if it blocks up how do they fix it?
Gary

Would this be usable?

by garydiamond - 2014-05-13 06:05:25

Violated? Just asking, YES I do want to bitch about my experience.

To warn others!!!! And to well in my case literally get it off my chest, because it was not a accident, it was negligence from too many people, in the same place, Yale 20 York St. New Haven CT.

Remember I was home alone, what if the pain caused me a heart attack, my bitching may save a life down the road for someone, if something happens once, it will happen again.

It seems, I'm very familiar with Murphy's law. And Murphy has been bugging me since I was 18 months old.

Gary

by IAN MC - 2014-05-13 06:05:41

Yes "violated" would be a great word to use and wouldn't
upset anybody.

As I have said I was surprised at the reactions to your original words . As far as communication goes; as long as people understand what you are trying to tell them , that is all that matters !

The word "violated " really would let people know just how angry you are.

Best of luck

Ian

Sure Gary

by Grateful Heart - 2014-05-13 07:05:00

That's much better. Thanks for being sensitive to some of the others.

Your communication skills are just fine.

You made me laugh....a lot of us kinda know Murphy too.

Grateful Heart

Ladies ..an over-reaction perhaps?

by IAN MC - 2014-05-13 08:05:41

I have just been reading a newspaper article about the "rape" of the countryside and forests, the word "rape" meaning to spoil or destroy, so the word does not necessarily have sexual connotations at all !

In Gary's defence he likened his ordeal to something absolutely abhorrent to convey the strength of his feelings. I found some of the responses from a country which prides itself on its free speech to be nothing short of extraordinary !

My wife has just read the above posts and simply cannot understand some of the reactions to Gary's choice of words. . Lighten up ladies !

Ian

How it felt, if you don't have hairy chest

by garydiamond - 2014-05-13 12:05:25

Hit your self on your head with a baseball bat, now just enough so your skin feels just like after your pacemaker felt, you know, If touching your skin, and it hurts,

Now take 5 spots around the tender skin and grab a bunch of hairs tie them to strong fishing line, and pull them slowly , every 30 minutes, keep pulling more, and more, now after you have done that for about 28 hours. Please let me know if you were a happy camper, but keep in mind some one else has done this to you. And your really upset with them because if at least one person in that chain had done their job, it would not have happened.

One big no i could not tell it was hairs, either i was out of my mind or because of me not sleeping for almost 60 hours when i pulled them out, it did not feel like hairs pulling, my real guess is because the skin was so raw and tender it created a different sense you get from the normal feel of hair pulling

This can't be to common i searched the internet and could not find another case like mine.

It's OK

by Grateful Heart - 2014-05-13 12:05:26

I'm not upset. I was just thinking of others.

I didn't know you spoke to the Patient Advocate. I did look at the pics. I agree, the last one does not look professional.

So the next step is up to you. How far you want to take it and whether or not you have any legal recourse is for an Attorney to decide. You may need that part of this process so contact one and talk to them.

I can only advise what I already stated in my post above and to continue reading some other posts here to try to get you beyond this point emotionally. This is a good, caring group with many stories both good and bad.

You do sound a little calmer now so maybe talking about it has helped.

The bottom line is you have to do what is best for you and your Wife.

Grateful Heart

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR THE BANDAGES TO FALL OFF

by garydiamond - 2014-05-16 05:05:32

Mine look as tight as ever, I know the nurse put what looked like some glue on my mine after I removed the outside ones to soon. She was checking me for infection is there a point where after away I should be concerned, they're beginning to look like a old rags kind of gray looking. It's been
21 days now. Is that normal?

Thanks for the info how the posts work here.

by garydiamond - 2014-05-17 10:05:09

Well, since I had all the issues, the surgery was done on April 25th i saw my doctor's nurse on the next wednesday, and she just said they will fall off on their own, and not to pull them off even if i see them just hanging there, still not to pull they must fall off on their own

On the 25th she said i can go back to doing anything i did before, which i told her i do work out with push ups, hand weights, i use 5 and 18 pounds, its to keep my rotten joints in shape. I need my muscles to make up for real bad joints, have done my right hip, the other hip is bone on bone too now, both shoulders, left one is the worse, and bone on bone in my right hand fingers getting some knee pain and i'm scare to even get them checked out.

This all started by me wanting to have my left arm surgery and failed the heart doctor, only because this time I wanted to be sure she read my true pulse reading i took a xanxa before I left the house, it read 38, but i have seen my pulse read as low as 31. But don't have and dizzy issues, and she didn't truly believe me, I said i told you so, just got that look like a puppy who has peed the floor.
Now i don't know when i will get my left arm fixed, this all send my wife over the edge mental wise. more crap for my plate. even the 24 heart monitor never truly went low enough i assume it's because that night i had a tough time sleeping. I should have doubled my sleep xanax.
I'm just going to wait until the 22th and, if it don't look like it's getting loose, just ask them now what. I don't want a infection from them getting dirty from my sweat once i start working out again.
The sweat would be stuck under them.

Thanks for reading Gary

Gary

by Grateful Heart - 2014-05-17 11:05:18

You're not doing push ups and weights for upper body yet are you? For that you should wait at least 6 weeks. You can do some lower body stuff now.

Maybe you should go for a 2nd opinion on all of this. Fresh eyes to look at it. You need better guidance through all of this I feel.

If you are taking showers by now the water should help the bandage come off sooner. Take a peek at it and see how it looks.

Read through the old posts here regarding what you should not be doing yet. I don't know why the Nurse told you you can do anything as of Day 1....there are some restrictions in the beginning.

Grateful Heart

3 Weeks?

by Grateful Heart - 2014-05-17 12:05:23

Have you gone back for a follow up with the Doctor since the surgery or even to a new Doctor since you had all these issues? Did they give you any instructions about showering or an appt.?

Gary, have a Doctor or Nurse take a look at it if they haven't yet. You don't want to risk infection.

One other note: After 7 days the recent posts drop off this page.....that's 7 days from your initial post so in a few days if you add a message to this thread it will not be seen unless someone is looking through old posts so at that point or before....it is best to start a fresh new thread to be sure it will be seen if you have any questions.

Let us know how the Doctor visit goes.

Grateful Heart

No, she said on my 3oth day after

by garydiamond - 2014-05-17 12:05:46

And she said "IF you could DO IT before", you can do it 30 days later, i was able PRESS 18 pounds straight up on my left shoulder, and 30 times with my right, i'm still doing my right, but when i feel some pain on the left side i stop.

I do it to keep healthy, it also helps me mentally, can't wait to get fully back
I just got off the treadmill, I warm up at 2.0 speed, one minute then go to 3.6 for 2 minutes, then go to 4.2 after 15 minutes go to 2 .0 for one minutes to cool down
I was able to do a incline of 10 degrees last year with the same speeds, than i switched to summer yard work, and now when i try to increase the incline my knees hurt, and my gut says there worn out too so i'm at zero incline, going to try soon to increase it again last year i did stage heart test at home many times, only got to about 140 on my pulse. I just didn't say hey i'm going to do it, i worked up to it, slowly in April of 2012 i weighed 94 pounds more than i do now. i will post that pic just for you kid, i don't want you to think i'm BS you.

Some times i feel why me, who knows i grew up drinking from lead pipes, teeth full of mercury. and living very near a coal electric plant, carbon dust would be everywhere, wipe it off, and the next day a new layer would pop up. I'm glad were starting to think more green, only wish it had happened sooner. The harbour near where i lived as a kid looked more liked a toilet, and smelled it too, then a harbour.

My wife grew up on a farm and was sprayed DTT all summer long, and that area now has the highest cluster for breast cancer.

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