tricuspid valve dysfunction
- by Lonestar
- 2018-12-08 14:19:29
- Batteries & Leads
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I strongly suggeset everyone on this forum with a 2 lead pacemaker at least scan an online article on tricuspid valve dysfunction. http://www.onlinejacc.org/content/accj/69/18/2331.full.pdf. You will be surprised to learn about the number and seriousness of issues around the interference of PM leads with the triscuspid valve assembly. Based on my experience, some of the issues raised in earlier posts are likely derived from valve problems caused by PM leads.
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Thanks Lonestar
by IAN MC - 2018-12-09 10:09:32
Thank you .... very interesting. One of the first things I asked my cardiologist post-implant was " What are the downsides of shoving wires through my tricuspid valve, will the valve still close OK ???
He was slightly dismissive and then I had an ECHO .... surprise, surprise it showed slight leakage around the valve i.e. tricuspid regurgitation ! He was still fairly dismissive and said that it wasn't "clinically significant ". I wonder !!
I wonder if slight fall offs in the ability to exercise could sometimes be due to the wires in the tricuspid valve causing valve malfunction and not necessarily due to chronotropic incompetence with the inevitable follow-up of various rate response adjustments ??
I think it is a topic which EPs are not that happy about discussing.
Ian
lead interference
by Lonestar - 2018-12-09 14:33:32
Ian, This same thought occurred to me. SInce my PM installation 2 months ago, I have had 7 visits to program the rate-adaptive sensor and still don't feel like I am much ahead of where I was before the PM when I was dealing with bradycardia (I am an active athlete). SInce my recent echo shows "severe" TR, I now wonder whether the loss in cardio efficiency from the TR is offsetting any benefit I might be deriving from the PM. None of the techs have ever mentioned this, but I will be discussing with my cardio this week.
BTW---Do not take TR lightly! If this is happening because of damage as opposed to interference, you could be in serious trouble. I went through this with my mitral valve.
To Lonestar
by BarbD - 2018-12-09 14:58:51
Is your severe TR a result of the PM leads? What are they planning to do about it - replace the valve? I am trying to decide if I should proceed with a CRT-D and this is just another thing for me to worry about :-(
To BarbD
by Lonestar - 2018-12-09 15:56:06
Will learn more this coming week. Will update you. I had my mitral valve repaired 8 years ago and know that repair is preferable to replacement. If TR can be fixed by removing lead, then that is another approach to consider. On my first PM installation, EP tried to attach the ventricle lead to the bundle of His (inside the atrium). It failed and he then attached it inside the ventricle. He never fully explained why he tried the first apporach, but after reading about lead/valve interference, I think I know why.
Valve dysfunction
by Lonestar - 2019-04-11 22:31:30
In mid-February I had surgery to repair my highly dysfunctional (grade 4+ regurgitation) tricuspid valve. Surgeon (Cleveland Clinic) elected to also upgrade my PM to one with a footfall sensor and a breathing activity sensor. Surgeon told me the PM lead was not interfering with the TV. Six weeks out I feel more energetic than I have in years. Docs told me between the bradycardia and the TR I was headed south fast. I feel the new PM (Boston Scientific) is helping me more than previous one from St. Jude. I am hitting peaks (Fitbit) in the 140's even though the PM is set for 140. Not sure how that happens. I played basketball in the 90-degree heat today and enjoyed it. Surgeon also told me anybody who has had one valve issue can expect another one if they live long enough.
Possible valve problem post PM
by _Claire_ - 2020-06-22 16:49:22
Hi guys
Sorry for those suffering problems. I have a question about valve problems.
I had PM micra leadless implanted in July 2019 and in December 2019 started getting a really strong pulsating neck. It's really visible to the eye and forceful. I'm in the UK, my GP was largely unhelpful and dismissed this symptom completely without any kind of examination. I haven't seen my cardiologist since early Decmeber before this started. All these months later, I have just come across the possibility of valve problems due to damage during insertion of PMs (even leadless ones). I have a phone appointment with my cardio in 2 weeks so will ask for his thoughts and maybe ask for an echo. But this made me wonder, should there be any type of monitoring of PMs after implantation? Some kind of check-up with a stethoscope or at least something post implantation? It seems that all they do is monitor the battery life etc remotely from PM downloads, but no physical health monitoring whatsoever, so far at least. This might be because I have a PM for sinus node dysfunction, so they're not monitoring the severity of that etc (like they would with cardiomyopathy or something more serious). Does this sound right to you guys from your experiences?
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by Lonestar - 2018-12-08 19:28:26
The first order symptom of a damaged TV is regurgitation, which any doctor should pick up with a stethoscope. An echo would show damage in detail. As the article indicates, there are multiple ways a lead can interfere with a TV, including causing endocarditis, a very dangerous blood disease (I know). If you have symptoms that might derive from lead interference, get an echo and a blood test.