Auto LifeStyle ?
- by DonSoule
- 2009-04-23 10:04:02
- Exercise & Sports
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I have a Boston Scientific Altrua 60 S602 pacemaker. It's a fairly new model which received FDA approval in May of 2008 but I think it's just a rebranding of a Guidant Insignia I Ultra (model 1291) . I found a system guide for each of these online and they read almost word for word the same - the only difference I could find was the AV delay goes up to 400ms on mine and it went up to 300ms on the Guidant model. So, I'm guessing they just put out the Guidant Insignia under a new name.
I'm hoping to get my PM fine tuned for long distance running - I'm signed up for a Marathon (26.2 miles) in June but so far I can't run any more than a very slow 3 miles. I've run 5 marathon's in the past 3 years so I know what it will take to finish this distance.
I was implanted with my PM on Jan 16, 2009 for Sinus Node Dysfunction and have had two pacemaker adjustments since then but the techs I've seen including 2 different Boston Scientific Reps don't seem to know how to adjust the rate response sensors for running. I was A-paced 100% and V-paced 60% at my last pacemaker clinic check-up. At my last check-up the techs admitted that they had never worked with a runner or very active person before.
Currently they have my accelerometer sensor turned on but as soon as I start a slow jog, my HR jumps to my max rate which is now set at 150 - I may need that available for sprinting but I would like a lower rate for long distance running and only go to my max rate when I am going all out.
They did not turn on my MV sensor - did not even tell me there is one.
Since then, I've found a manual for my pacemaker online and it mentions the MV sensor is useful for long distance running.
Quoting the manual:
"To allow active patients who exercise for a long duration (e.g., long-distance runners) to maintain an adequate sensor-driven rate throughout the exercise period, the baseline (long-term average) is fixed for up to 4 hours when the sensor rate is above 50% of the programmed rate range ([LRL + MSR] / 2). For example, if the LRL is 60 ppm and the MSR is 120 ppm, the baseline average will freeze when the heart rate exceeds 90 ppm (180 / 2). After a maximum of 4 hours or when the sensor rate falls below the 50% point, baseline adaptation will be re-enabled. This feature is always active when MV is used."
There is also an "AutoLifestyle Feature" that can be turned on that will allow the pacemaker to self-adjust the accelerometer and the MV sensor to a person's activity level.
Again to quote from the manual:
"The AutoLifestyle feature will adjust the MV Response Factor and Accelerometer Response Factor to adapt the sensor-driven pacing rate to correspond with the patient's actual measured activity. The measurement of exercise intensity and frequency is determined by measuring MV and accelerometer values during patient activity."
I know a lot of people have dealt with similar problems related to the rate response accelerometer being turned on at implant and their HR going up to the max rate when they exercise. I've read about this in other post but the typical response it to just turn off the rate response feature. In my case, I feel that I need the rate response. I just want it to work correctly for running.
My questions:
1. Has anyone had an MV (minute ventilation) sensor turned on and how did it work for you?
2. Has anyone used an "Auto Lifestyle" feature and did that work?
I appreciate any comments anyone has related to these rate response topics and especially if you have experience with a Boston Scientific or Guidant Insignia and used any of these features.
Don
6 Comments
Another Altrua 60
by DonSoule - 2009-04-23 05:04:00
Hi Angelie,
Glad to hear someone else has one very similar to mine!
Did you have the AutoLifestyle feature on before your 5K and do you think it helped?
Do you have it on now?
If you have a copy of your last interrogation report, it's in the Sensor(s) section below the Minute Ventilation settings.
Also what do you show for values under the Accelerometer and Minute Ventilation?
Mine shows:
Accelerometer: On
Activity Thresshold: Med-Lo
Reaction Time: 30sec
Response Factor: 9
Recovery Time: 2 min
Minute Ventilation: Off
MV Lead: - -
Response Factor: - -
High Rate Response Factor: - -%
High Rate Break Point: - - ppm
Age: 60
AutoLifestyle: - -
with Exercise: - -
Time Dependent Blend: - -
Sorry to hear you're in limbo health wise and can't do your running - I've read some of your other posts about abilation adventures.
Keep up the good fight,
Don
Kruz, Thanks for your comments too - glad someone has figured out how to get a good rate response working for them. Do you know if they are just using the MV sensor or do they have the Accelerometer on too for a blended rate response?
MV setting
by kcruz - 2009-04-23 11:04:23
Don:
I have a friend that is a referee for lacrosse and she has had the MV on her device turned on. She has stated that is works really well for her, the only down side she has had is that it sometimes kicks in even with everyday light activity and she tends to get a little annoyed with that. But in saying that she has said that with the heavy activity it works very well. hope this helps
Thanks Angelie
by DonSoule - 2009-04-24 11:04:06
It will be interesting to me to see how you are setup - The one lead configuration seems rare these days on this site anyway. I haven't had the tachy problem - just low pulse and not going up enough with exercise. I just had a call back from my pacemaker clinic and they said they can get me on a treadmill and adjust the pacemaker for running!! So I'm excited to see how that goes!! I told them the techs I've seen so far said they hadn't dealt with a runner before so hopefully she will set me up with a good one that has had experience working with a runner! I'm waiting for a call back to see when they can schedule it - the sooner the better! I was out running when I received the call on my cell phone.
Hmmmm.
by Angelie - 2009-04-24 11:04:52
I don't know if I'm able to help much, Don, because Auto Lifestyle has always been turned on for me as well as MV.....if I'm not mistaken.
It's been a while since I've looked at my interrogation report, but as soon as I do, I'll let you know.
I also have a sort of rare pacemaker configuration being paced atrially with only one lead in my atrium. This might cause a HUGE difference in the way our settings are.
Although we have very similar equipment, which is good to know, our conditions and configurations I'm sure are considerably different. (I used to have tachy-arrhythmias, but since my 5th ablation, I've been brady- so not sure what I'm labeled as now...lol)
Regardless of our known differences, I will still look at my last pacer report and will send you a letter of my settings.
I'll be in touch, and I do hope that they get 'cha "tweaked" soon.
Angelie
MV on - Auto Lifestyle off
by DonSoule - 2009-04-28 06:04:26
A Boston Scientific rep did my adjustments yesterday while I was on a treadmill running a normal daily run pace. I was hooked up to some sort of ECG machine which displayed the waves and my heart rate - I started walking and then I ran for about 5 minutes. Then he turned on the MV sensor and set it up the way he thought it should be and had me do the same exercise test again. It seemed easier the second time and my HR didn't jump up to my maximum as it did the first time so I hope he got it right. It's hard to tell from a 5 min test
I went on a longer run today - 6 Miles - My pace was about 1 min/mile faster than yesterday's 3 mile run and I felt better. I hope I can now get enough miles in over the next 8 weeks until Grandma's Marathon so I will be able to come under the 6hr limit. That's my only time goal. I'll need to lose a few pounds and get my fitness level/endurance up to make this happen.
He did not turn on the Auto Lifestyle - seemed to think that it didn't work as well as the literature claimed and that he could set it up better mannually doing the treadmill test. He also mentioned he had just talked to the person that developed the algorithm for the Auto Lifestyle feature. So I assume he knew what he was talking about - anyway he seemed to be more competent than the people I have seen for the other adjustments.
He left the Accelerometer ON and changed some of the settings to make it less sensitive. So now my rate response settings are:
Accelerometer: On
Activity Threshold: Medium (was Med-Low)
Reaction Time: 30 sec
Response Factor: 8 (was 9)
Recovery Time: 2 min
Minute Ventilation: On
MV Lead: Ventricle
Response Factor: 2
High Rate Response Factor: 70 %
High Rate Break Point: 115 ppm (after this point he said it will take more effort to get it higher)
AutoLifeStyle: Off
Time Dependent Blend: Off
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by Angelie - 2009-04-23 02:04:25
As far as I know, as I've been through so many interrogations so far trying to fine tune myself, I have all of the features activated which you're wondering about.
I have other health issues as far as heart rhythm problems but trained and ran a 5K 4 months after my pacer implant. Right now, I'm in limbo health wise, but plan on getting back on the saddle as soon as I possibly can. Some days, I wish I could run like a bat out of hell....away.....from everything. I just wanna run, and it's frustrating, but I haven't given up.
I commend you in your quest to return to running, and believe that after you get everything fine tuned that you will be able to perform well in training and on "game day".
Sometimes it just takes time to get the settings of a pacemaker adapted for your lifestyle. Just be persistant in your quest to get things right. Remember that it's your life....not the doctor's, or rep that checks your pacer. If you're not right with how things are set, regardless of how many times you complain, keep trying until you feel like you're at your very best.
Good luck,
Angelie